A lack of interest in party machinery
Scott was never interested in party politics, he says. He did not care who was running the mechanisms of the Democratic Party as long as he was able to advance his policies. He attended fundraisers for Democratic politicians, but confesses that he did so as much for himself as he did for them. Scott's lack of interest in party building, beyond what it took to win his election, reveals an intriguing political vision.
Citing this Excerpt
Oral History Interview with Robert W. (Bob) Scott, February 11, 1998. Interview C-0336-2. Southern Oral History Program Collection (#4007) in the Southern Oral History Program Collection, Southern Historical Collection, Wilson Library, University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill.
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- JACK FLEER:
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Governor, every governor in the United States referred to as a titular
head of a political party, because of a number of authorities and powers
that governors have. How important was this particular role to you in
your service as governor?
- ROBERT W. (BOB) SCOTT:
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In my public role, it was important. In my personal role, it
wasn't, in my personal thinking. I realized and respected,
and still do, that the party is the mechanism in our democracy by which
one acquires public office, and I'm a strong believer in the
two-party system, so long as the Democratic party is in the majority.
No, really, it is good to have a two-party system, and now that
I'm not active in the political life, I can say that I think
North Carolina is better, probably, by having a two-party system.
However, one must remember that when the Democratic party was in power
for so many years, the first part of this century, they had a two-party
system, it was just fought out within the Democratic party, that is, the
liberals and the conservatives within the party.
But I never paid much attention to party politics, entirely. I
didn't really care who was going to be the chairman of the
party in a given county, didn't really care who was chairman
of the state party, although as governor, clearly I did exert great
influence on who that person would be. It just wasn't that
important to me in the scheme of things. Others felt it was terribly
important.
My feeling is that there are two ways in which one can participate in the
political process. One way is through the party
mechanism, by being active in precinct work, the county convention, the
district and the state conventions, campaigning for the office of the
state Democratic executive committee, or to be the chairman of the
county party, whatever. And get deeply involved in writing the party
platform, passing resolutions at the county convention. I never did
really care for that, it didn't bother me. I don't
think I've ever read a party platform. The other way one
participates is by being a candidate for a public office, whether
it's the county commissioner, or sheriff, or legislature, or
state office. That was the route that I chose. It wasn't a
conscious decision; I just never had— probably
wouldn't have been interested in doing it otherwise.
So I did what I felt obligated to do, as governor, for the party, that is
to say, attend fundraisers, to make the appointments to the office of
the national committee, get my person in as the party chair. And those
were interesting exercises, but in the scheme of things I really
didn't think it was that important. The reason I
didn't think the party platform was all that important,
because a person who campaigns for the office of governor, he has his
agenda; that agenda becomes the governor's platform. It is
conceivable that the state party platform which would be adopted would
be at odds with the governor's platform. And so to prevent
that embarrassment, you want to be certain that you allies are in
control of the party apparatus. And therein lies one of the main reasons
that I was as active as I was in party activities. I really
didn't care that much about what went on at the national
level, party-wise; I just hoped that there would
be somebody nominated for president that we could live with
politically.
- JACK FLEER:
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Did you ever use, or attempt to use, the resources of the party to help
in the identification and election of legislators for the state general
assembly? Was that a part of what you did?
- ROBERT W. (BOB) SCOTT:
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No, I never did get involved in that. I didn't worry about
that. I say I didn't worry about it; I was interested in who
was going to get elected to the legislature, but party
resources—are you speaking here of the parties in
politics, Democrats or Republicans?
- JACK FLEER:
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That's right.
- ROBERT W. (BOB) SCOTT:
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No, only in the sense that I would attend and support party fundraisers,
and you know, political rallies and do all that. But in retrospect, I
suspect that was as much for myself as it was for the party as a
whole.
- JACK FLEER:
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Those rallies were for yourself. So that trying to develop a following
that would be sympathetic to your political interest and your political
agenda in the legislature was not something that
you—
- ROBERT W. (BOB) SCOTT:
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That wasn't really a factor. And along that line, when I
completed my term as governor and left office, I made no effort to keep
a political organization. I really thought I was through with that, I
didn't see an opportunity and didn't particularly
want to go to Washington as a senator or a house member. I went up there
for two years in party administration, but I didn't really
like that. So I didn't attempt to keep an
organization going, nor work all that hard in the party, although
again I felt an obligation to participate in functions of the party. For
several years I would go to the state conventions of the
Jefferson-Jackson dinners and Vance-Aycock dinners. But it
wasn't too long before I didn't even bother to do
that. I don't go anymore.
- JACK FLEER:
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Do you think that if you had been eligible to run for reelection, that
party would have been a more important thing for you?
- ROBERT W. (BOB) SCOTT:
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Yeah, oh, yeah. And I appreciate the fact that the Democratic party gave
me the opportunity to serve. It was the mechanism, it was the apparatus
by which I could reach that point. And if I had had an opportunity to
run again, I expect I would have been a little more diligent in trying
to strengthen the party than I was. Interesting enough, there was a call
on my voice-mail now by the newly designated party chairman Barbara
[unclear]
wanting me to talk about the party and
what I think needs to be done, and I'm sure she's
doing this for a number of people, including former party officials and
so on. And that's good. But I never did really worry about
that too much. It just wasn't that high on my priorities of
things to do.