Becoming aware of southern race issues and teaching at an African American school
Young describes how her sojourn in the North while attending graduate school at University of Wisconsin and Bryn Mawr College, as well as her brief job as the Dean of Women at Hamlin in St. Paul, Minnesota, piqued her interest in the issue of race in the South. While in St. Paul, her association with an African American woman from the South led her to the realization that she had been relatively unaware of race problems while growing up in Memphis. She explains how this realization became a catalyst for her decision to teach at an African American school in the South, rather than continuing her career in the North.
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Oral History Interview with Louise Young, February 14, 1972. Interview G-0066. Southern Oral History Program Collection (#4007) in the Southern Oral History Program Collection, Southern Historical Collection, Wilson Library, University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill.
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- ROBERT HALL:
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So what did you study. What did you have in mind to be?
- LOUISE YOUNG:
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I was gonna be a teacher because I so loved and admired the Episcopal nun
that was the principal of our . . . of St. Mary's in Memphis. Sister
Mary Moore. She later became the Reverend Mother. She was an
Englishwoman. Just lovely. So I wanted to have a private school of my
own, preparatory school for girls as much like St. Mary's as anything
could be, because I liked it so well. And I had gone to college at 16.
So it was agreed that, I mean I had finished college at 16, that I was
due from the family another graduate year you see. So I went to the
University of Wisconsin expecting to major in English. We hadn't really
majored at Vanderbilt in those terms. All of us had to have Latin and
Greek. But when I got there I hadn't had enough English to qualify for a
Masters Degree in English but I had had enough philosophy. So I shifted
to a major in Philosophy with a minor in English. Had a lovely time
there and to my amazement that Spring my professor asked me to wait
after class. And I was afraid he was going to tell me that I wasn't
doing very well. And he asked me if I would be interested in a
fellowship to Bryn Mawr? And I said, what is a fellowship? And when he
told me I said, well could I write home about it? So actually this first
fellowship, I had forgotten was a fellowship for Wisconsin for a second
year there. So I wrote home explaining it and it was very generous cash
as well as tuition. I knew it wasn't quite enough and I wrote my parents
about it. And they wired back congratulations. And certainly,
certainly, take it.
And the next year this gentleman, Mr. McGilrey of the Philosophy
Department asked me the same question about going to Bryn Mawr. So I
went to Bryn Mawr the following year and was supposed to go on and get
my doctor's degree in philosophy at Wisconsin. And I was learning
"Th eories of Consciousness" and "Recent
Realism" and I think of such things. But by now this was 1917
and my brothers were officer's training camp, all three of them, on
their way to France. I was in Bryn Mawr when the war started, for '16
and '17. And that Summers I was at Wisconsin writing on my thesis. And
three of the boys were in officer's training camp, the summer of '17 you
see, ready to go to France that fall, and coming home for a little
while. So I ditched what I was doing and came home to see my brother.
And meanwhile was signed up to be a Dean of Women at Hamlin. University
in St. Paul.
So I went on as the Dean of Women . . .
- ROBERT HALL:
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Is that a girl's school?
- LOUISE YOUNG:
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That's a coed school.
- ROBERT HALL:
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In Minnesota?
- LOUISE YOUNG:
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In St. Paul, Minnesota. And I was, the girls told me, the youngest dean
in captivity. I was one of the youngest deans in captivity. And my job
was to keep them from just dying of homesickness and lonliness for their
sweethearts who were in France. My brothers were in France. So we
consoled each other. And I was dean there for two years. And . . . now
you stop me when I'm talking too much. You know you can get anybody to
talk about themselves, especially an older woman.
- ROBERT HALL:
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That's the idea.
- LOUISE YOUNG:
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That's very nice. A very nice idea. WEll, at that time there were almost
no Negroes in St. Paul. This was 1917, 1919 that I was there and but one
very light colored woman came and gave me a shampoo in my own quarters
there. And she was from Mound Bayou, Mississippi and she was lonely for
the South and she and I would discuss southern problems everytime she
came to wash my hair. And I think she said there were only twenty Negro
families in St. Paul at that time. I don't think she really knew but
there were very few anyway. So she kept alive my interest in the South.
And she and other people there would ask me things I couldn't answer. I
was ashamed of myself and thought I should know. So I decided that the
way to learn was to teach in a Negro school in Memphis. Was going back
home and teach in a Negro school. And my mother assured me that the
Negro teachers, I mean the Negro schools were all taught by Negro
teachers. There were no white teachers for Negro schools in Memphis. But
she said, we, the Southern Methodist Church it was at that time, did
have a so-called college for Negroes in Augusta, Georgia. And my mother
really said I might look into it. And I did. And applied for a place and
they had never had an application from St. Paul let alone from a
southern white woman who had graduated from Vanderbilt and so on and so
forth to come down to teach. So I went down there and most of my friends
and family just threw up their hands. This was in 1919, this was really
a disgraceful thing to do. One young man told me he would rather see me
in the penitentiary, he'd rather see me in prisoner's garb than to see
me go down there. That's how deeply people felt about that.