Paternalism in the mill villages
The Thompsons talk about how paternalism functioned in the mills and the surrounding mill villages.
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Oral History Interview with Carl and Mary Thompson, July 19, 1979. Interview H-0182. Southern Oral History Program Collection (#4007) in the Southern Oral History Program Collection, Southern Historical Collection, Wilson Library, University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill.
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- JIM LELOUDIS:
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Did your bosses ever object to people going to the Holiness revivals or
to the Holiness church?
- MARY THOMPSON:
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No. Some of them didn't ever go to no church theirself, but
they didn't object to you going. In fact, several of the
bosses belonged to the Baptist church.
- JIM LELOUDIS:
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How about the mill owners? I wondered if they got bothered when the
Holiness revivals would set up.
- MARY THOMPSON:
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No, they didn't care. I don't know about Mr. Poe.
He was living. He started the Poe Mill. And then after he died, his son
was the owner of the Poe Mill. And they lived over there between the
village and town, on James Street. We used to go over there. They were
very nice to us. But I don't know what church they went to,
but there didn't nobody object
to… In fact, they helped keep up the churches.
- JIM LELOUDIS:
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What did they do to help the churches?
- MARY THOMPSON:
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They paid their money into the churches, and then if they needed painting
or any work done, they'd send people out from the mill to
have it fixed. The church didn't have to pay to have it
painted or repaired or anything; the mill company seen that the churches
was kept up.
- JIM LELOUDIS:
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Did they ever have much say in who would be the minister or what he would
preach?
- MARY THOMPSON:
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No, they didn't have anything to say in that. It was voted
through the church. No, they didn't try to dictate to the
churches at all. But I don't know what church they went to. I
really hadn't ever thought nothing about it. I
don't even know whether they went to a church or not. But I
do know that they did keep up our church. Over here at our church,
Highland Park, Johnson in Highland Park give thousands of dollars to our
church and the Presbyterian Church, give land for both churches, and the
Methodist church up yonder. And they helped do repair work and all, too.
See, the mill villages always did help keep up the churches that was on
the mill villages so that the people would have churches to go to.
- JIM LELOUDIS:
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Why do you think the companies were so eager to support the churches?
- MARY THOMPSON:
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I think it was because they knowed they'd be better workers
and better people if they had churches.
- JIM LELOUDIS:
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How so, better workers?
- MARY THOMPSON:
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Because people that's living right is not out getting into
trouble. And if you go to church and read the Bible, you know that
you're supposed to work. And I really think they knew that
people would be better workers and better people, wouldn't
have the trouble with them. I don't
know; I never heard them say so. I really don't know, but I
imagine that was it. But they even used to have a schoolhouse down here
at Highland Park. We had a schoolhouse at Poe Mill, too.
- JIM LELOUDIS:
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Was that part of the Parker School District?
- MARY THOMPSON:
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No, it was the Poe Mill Elementary School. We went to school there. It
was about middle ways of the village, so everybody could walk easy. And
then when we went to Parker High School, we could walk over there or
either ride the streetcar or bus. But the Parker High School
didn't have anything to do with the village, but the Poe Mill
School did. And it burnt down one time, and the mill built it back.
- JIM LELOUDIS:
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You said if you went to church, you knew you were supposed to work. Did
they preach about work very often in the church?
- MARY THOMPSON:
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No, it's just in the Bible that people is supposed to make
their living by the sweat of their brow. They preached that.
- JIM LELOUDIS:
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You said they might have been concerned about people misbehaving. What
happened if somebody in the village drank too much or something like
that?
- MARY THOMPSON:
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If they got to giving trouble, they fired them and made them move. But
that happened very seldom. I know that people has always looked down on
the mill village, but really they was pretty decent people on the mill
village, ones that we associated with. I do know that they would get
shut of them pretty quick if they was too rough. If they was causing any
trouble or giving disturbance or anything like that, they'd
just fire them at the mill and get shut of them.
- JIM LELOUDIS:
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Did they police the mill any at all?
- MARY THOMPSON:
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Oh, yes. They had policemen at the mill. Every mill had their own
policemen.
- JIM LELOUDIS:
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Did they ever come around and inspect the mill houses to make sure that
you were keeping them up or anything like that?
- MARY THOMPSON:
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No, not that I know of. They didn't ours.
- CARL THOMPSON:
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They would in the mill, but they never did the houses. They'd
come around and inspect in the mill.
- MARY THOMPSON:
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If anything went wrong in your house, you reported it down at the mill
and they'd send somebody out to fix it.