I started work in Raleigh off the farm working at Southern Building
Supply as a truck driver. I went from that as a truck driver as a
cabinet installer/helper. The owner, I don't know why, but the owner and
the manager just took a liking to me and they would let me do things
that whites weren't supposed to do at that time. The boss-man, we was on
a job one day and the boy that I was helping, he was the front man
because he built the cabinets and all I was was a helper for him. I had
gotten to the point where I knew as much about installation as he did
and would work harder at it. We was in there putting in a big home of
cabinets and I was in there at work. He was in there sitting in the den
there with the land owner drinking coffee and the boss man drove up
outside, walked in the kitchen. I was in there working and this boy was
sitting in there with the homeowner drinking coffee and not doing any
work. He came in, and that's the way he was, he just walked in and made
a circle around in the kitchen. He asked me, he said, "Where's Tommy?" I
said, "He's next door." He pushed the door open, peeked in and didn't
say anything, came on back. When we got back to the office he called
both of us in his office. He said, "Tommy, did SJ tell you that I was on
the job over there today?" That boy looked right straight at me. I said,
"No, I didn't tell him. "He said, "Well, I was over there and you was in
there drinking coffee, not at work." The boss man was strict about work.
He didn't care whether you were black or white, he wanted you to work.
So that day he said, "From this day on"… and the boy was prejudiced too.
He said, "From this day on I'm putting SJ on the table beside of you. I
want you to teach him everything you know about this." The next day or
two, I didn't have any tools or
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hammers or, and I needed a hammer. I reached over to pick up the boy's
hammer and he said, "No sir. Don't you touch my… if I let you use my
hammer, the next thing I know you'll have my job." And one year after
that I had his job. Of course, I didn't take it from him, it was because
it was just destined for me from then on I learned everything,
everything about building and cabinet work. I'd stand in the house. I
wired the first house because I'd go out on the job and I'd see the
electrician wiring houses, I'd watch him, see what they was doing and
how they was doing it. I wired the first house we built here, I wired
it. The way I learned how to put in a foundation, going out on the job
hauling building materials to jobs and I'd watch how they was digging up
the foundations and how wide it was supposed to be, the depths it was
supposed to be. I learned all of that from just being watchful, learned
all of that. all the carpenter work. We had a contractor, he was Rebbish
too. I'd been in the shop there maybe a year, year and a half and I
noticed that he would never come my way in the shop. So one day he had
to come down through the area where I was working and he said to my boss
man, "What's SJ doing around that table? A black man's not supposed to
do that work. So what's SJ doing on that table?" Mr. Cummings, Rock
Cummings was the manager, he said, "He's learning the trade, that's what
he's doing." He said, "As long as you keep that nigger in this shop with
a hammer in his hand I'll never buy another piece of building materials
from you."