As I remember, I came into contact with her … I don't remember ever being
at an Interracial meeting there, but I think that it was during ERA …
not the ERA we have now, but during the Roosevelt Administration,
economic recovery period. And I think that is when I first came to know
Alice. The thing that I remember first about her, that I recall, was … I think that she had just come back from
abroad and we were in a meeting where they were … you know, during the
ERA, they arranged jobs for laboring classes and all like that and then
they moved into where they said that there were a lot of professional
people out of work and they wanted to make some provision for them. And
then they got a project in South Carolina … I don't know what they did
in other states, but I guess that they were similar, but they worked out
a project where they go into these various areas and … well, someplaces
they had teachers who were out of jobs and they sent them into
communities kind of as tutors for illiterates. And they would set up
groups of illiterates and teach them. We called those ERA teachers. And
then, we were at a meeting in Columbia where they decided to put on a
history project, I believe it was, it was to go into history and art,
something like that. It was to go particularly into the islands into
what we call the Gullah district, where there were a lot of direct
descendants of slaves and many of them hadn't even moved out of the area
at all, they hadn't even traveled much. And so, we were in that meeting
and I remember what they were to do. They were trying to arrange these
jobs. They had the money to put these high echelons of teachers there
were some teachers that hadn't gone far and so, they kind of fell into
the category of teaching these people out in the rural areas that
couldn't read and write, that type of thing. And then, we had some
others that were out of school and were college graduates, but didn't
have work. And so, there was a tendency in that meeting to steer that to
where only whites would do that particular thing. Well, Alice and I were
in that meeting and there was a physician there by the name of Robert
Mance, he and I used to parallel our activities in that if we went into
a meeting and they tried to do thus-and-so, "let's get on them." My reaction was always, "If it comes to that, I'm
going to say this. What do you think about it?" "Well, if I say it, I
want you to back me up and we'll just take it to a fight." We would
always say," All right," to each other. So, this particular day, Mance
and I were getting up and Alice was in there and she had the same idea
that Mance and I had about these black professionals. And so, they just
about had that thing cut and dried. They were going to set up that
thing, but none of these Negro teachers and all those out of jobs, they
were just going to take it and give it all to whites. So, things got hot
in there that day. And Alice was in there and that was where I first
remember her. Because she and Mance and I got in this huddle. They had
the meeting almost over and they were about to move to adjourn and we
said, "No, you can't adjourn yet, this thing has got to be straightened
out." And this friend of mine, a colored nurse who was there, she said,
"I declare, you are the devil. Some people are thinking of going home
and you are starting the meeting again." And so, we have done that a
lot, Alice and I and other folks. By the time that they think that have
got their point carried as far as they can, then we say, "By the way,
thus-and-so, let's look at it this way and …"