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                    <hi rend="bold">[Testimony from Fleming Saunders and Marmaduke Baker Accusing
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                <head>[Testimony from <name key="pn0001481" reg="Saunders, Fleming" type="person">Fleming Saunders</name> and <name key="pn0000084" reg="Baker, Marmaduke" type="person">Marmaduke Baker</name> Accusing <name key="pn0000134" reg="Benton, Thomas Hart" type="person" rend="yes">Thomas Benton</name> of
                    Stealing Their Money], March 19, 1799</head>
                <div2 type="report">
                    <head type="original">Files &amp;c.</head>
                    <opener>
                        <dateline>
                            <name key="" reg="" type="">N<hi rend="sup">o</hi> 1. </name>
                            <date>March 19. 1799</date>
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                    <p>Sometime about the first of February last, the undersigned <name key="pn0001481" reg="Saunders, Fleming" type="person">Fleming
                        Saunders</name> &amp; <name key="pn0000084" reg="Baker, Marmaduke" type="person">Marmaduke Baker</name> deposited a certain sum of money in
                        Mr <name key="pn0000134" reg="Benton, Thomas Hart" type="person" rend="yes">Thomas Benton’s</name> trunk, the key of which said <name key="pn0000134" reg="Benton, Thomas Hart" type="person">Benton</name>,
                        at all times carefully kept in his own possession. About six or eight days
                        after the deposit had been made, the undersigned <name key="pn0001481" reg="Saunders, Fleming" type="person" rend="yes">Saunders</name> applied
                        to <name key="pn0000134" reg="Benton, Thomas Hart" type="person">Benton</name> for some money, <name key="pn0000134" reg="Benton, Thomas Hart" type="person">Benton</name> opened the trunk
                        &amp; the undersigned <name key="pn0001481" reg="Saunders, Fleming" type="person">Saunders</name> taking hold of his purse immediately
                        exclaimed, that some of his money was lost. This exclamation he was induced
                        to make from a conviction that both the size &amp; weight of his purse
                        was considerably diminished. <name key="pn0000134" reg="Benton, Thomas Hart" type="person">Benton</name> appeared to be much surprised at this
                        declaration, &amp; began to move his cloaths in the trunk, by the
                        moving of which several loose Dollars were discovered, but these were not
                        sufficient in number to make the sum which was lost. Some short time
                        afterwards said <name key="pn0001481" reg="Saunders, Fleming" type="person">Saunders</name> recommended to the undersigned <name key="pn0000084" reg="Baker, Marmaduke" type="person" rend="yes">Baker</name> to examine
                        whether any of his money was also lost. The undersigned <name key="pn0000084" reg="Baker, Marmaduke" type="person">Baker</name>
                        accordingly <pb id="unc06-18-p02" n="[10]"/> examined &amp; declared
                        that he also had lost a few Dollars. This declaration appeared to add much
                        to <name key="pn0000134" reg="Benton, Thomas Hart" type="person">Benton’s</name> surprise &amp; uneasiness.</p>
                    <p>As the money had been deposited in <name key="pn0000134" reg="Benton, Thomas Hart" type="person">Benton’s</name> own trunk the
                        key of which he kept with remarkable carefulness, the undersigned thought
                        that he must know something about the manner in which their money had been
                        taken &amp; disposed of, but were unwilling to indulge the suspicion of
                            <name key="pn0000134" reg="Benton, Thomas Hart" type="person">Benton</name> having taken it himself. Some circumstances however occurred
                        about this time which confirmed them in the beleif of his guilt. As they
                        lived in the same room with <name key="pn0000134" reg="Benton, Thomas Hart" type="person">Benton</name> they had an opportunity of knowing almost
                        every part of his conduct. They could not help taking notice that instead of
                        being extremely parsimonious, as he had been in the early part of the
                        session, he had now become remarkably prodigal &amp; extravagant. This
                        change of conduct together with several other circumstances, confirmed the
                        undersigned in the opinion that <name key="pn0000134" reg="Benton, Thomas Hart" type="person">Benton</name> had taken their
                        money</p>
                    <p>On the night of the eighth of March, the pocket-book of the undersigned <name key="pn0000307" reg="Cherry, William" type="person">William Cherry</name>
                        <pb id="unc06-18-p03" n="[11]"/> was stolen out of his coat pocket after he
                        had gone to bed, &amp; with the pocket book, eight Dollars in cash, one
                        of which was a federal Dollar of the latest emission, &amp; which was
                        as the undersigned believe, the only one of the kind in College. On the same
                        night the sum of sixteen Dollars was stolen out of the pocket-book of the
                        undersigned <name key="pn0000084" reg="Baker, Marmaduke" type="person">Marmeduke Baker</name>, also a shilling bill which was marked with the
                        initial letters of said <name key="pn0000084" reg="Baker, Marmaduke" type="person">Bakers</name> name. As the Dollar &amp; shilling-bill
                        were thus remarkable, it was thought that they might afford an easy
                        opportunity of detection. The undersigned <name key="pn0001481" reg="Saunders, Fleming" type="person">Saunders</name> &amp; <name key="pn0000084" reg="Baker, Marmaduke" type="person">Baker</name>
                        therefore went to the different Merchants &amp; Tavern-keepers in the
                            <name key="name0000165" reg="Chapel Hill, NC" type="place" rend="yes">village</name>, described the Dollar &amp; shilling bill,
                        &amp; requested that if either should fall into their hands, that they
                        should give said <name key="pn0001481" reg="Saunders, Fleming" type="person">Saunders</name> &amp; <name key="pn0000084" reg="Baker, Marmaduke" type="person">Baker</name> immediate notice &amp; also inform them
                        of the person from whom they obtained it. A few days afterwards the
                        undersigned <name key="pn0001481" reg="Saunders, Fleming" type="person">Saunders</name> was informed by <name key="pn0001293" reg="Nunn, Hugh" type="person">Hugh Nunn</name> (a clerk in Mr <name key="x" reg="x" type="person" rend="">Scott’s</name> store) that he had seen the above
                        mentioned Dollar in <name key="pn0000134" reg="Benton, Thomas Hart" type="person">Thomas Benton’s</name> possession, &amp; that he had
                        endeavored to obtain the Dollar by giving other money in exchange for it,
                        but that <name key="pn0000134" reg="Benton, Thomas Hart" type="person">Benton</name> refused to exchange it, or by any means part from it.</p>
                    <p>Another circumstance which had <pb id="unc06-18-p04" n="[12]"/> great weight
                        with the undersigned was, that <name key="pn0000134" reg="Benton, Thomas Hart" type="person">Benton</name> had, for some
                        nights past, sat up much later than any of his room-mates, &amp; that
                        the undersigned <name key="pn0001481" reg="Saunders, Fleming" type="person">Saunders</name>, lying awake in his bed when <name key="pn0000134" reg="Benton, Thomas Hart" type="person">Benton</name> beleived him to be
                        asleep, discovered said <name key="pn0000134" reg="Benton, Thomas Hart" type="person">Benton</name> very carefully tie on his neck-handkerchief
                        immediately before he went to bed. That the night following he discovered
                            <name key="pn0000134" reg="Benton, Thomas Hart" type="person">Benton</name> (as he beleives with a pocket-book open on the table before
                        him) carefully fold up his neck-handkerchief &amp; then tie it on as he
                        had done the night before. Said <name key="pn0001481" reg="Saunders, Fleming" type="person">Saunders</name> declares that he
                        beleived at that time &amp; does still beleive that in that
                        handkerchief <name key="pn0000134" reg="Benton, Thomas Hart" type="person">Benton</name> carried the paper money which he had stolen from Mess<hi rend="sup">rs</hi>
                        <name key="pn0000084" reg="Baker, Marmaduke" type="person">Baker</name>
                        &amp; <name key="pn0000307" reg="Cherry, William" type="person">Cherry</name> &amp; which amounted to somewhat more than twenty
                        Dollars. He farther states it as his opinion that <name key="pn0000134" reg="Benton, Thomas Hart" type="person">Benton</name> was on the second
                        night, mentioned above, adjusting the money in his neck-handkerchief in such
                        a manner as that it might neither be discovered nor lost.</p>
                    <p>Hitherto the undersigned were, by no means, disposed to communicate to any
                        person, the suspicions which they had entertained of <name key="pn0000134" reg="Benton, Thomas Hart" type="person">Benton</name>. But being now
                        fully convinced of his guilt, they determined to fall on some plan to make a
                        thorough detection, &amp; as they were apprehensive that it might be
                        attended with a serious quarrel <pb id="unc06-18-p05" n="[13]"/> &amp;
                        perhaps be the cause of a challenge from <name key="pn0000134" reg="Benton, Thomas Hart" type="person">Benton</name>, they determined
                        to make some of the officers of the <name key="name0001146" reg="University of North Carolina" type="organization" rend="yes">University</name> acquainted with their suspicions &amp; the
                        reasons of them; &amp; also to enquire what plan should be thought most
                        advisable for the undersigned to pursue. The undersigned <name key="pn0001481" reg="Saunders, Fleming" type="person">Saunders</name>
                        accordingly waited on Mr <name key="pn0000268" reg="Caldwell, Joseph" type="person" rend="yes">Caldwell</name> on the 14 instant, &amp;
                        informed him as above. In the evening of the same day the undersigned <name key="pn0001481" reg="Saunders, Fleming" type="person">Saunders</name>
                        with Mr <name key="pn0000268" reg="Caldwell, Joseph" type="person" rend="yes">Caldwell</name> waited on Mr. <name key="pn0000580" reg="Gillaspie, James Smiley" type="person" rend="yes">Gillaspie</name>
                        &amp; communicated the whole to him, in order that they might have his
                        opinion &amp; advice with respect to the method which ought to be
                        adopted. Among many other plans which were suggested, it was proposed that
                        the undersigned <name key="pn0001481" reg="Saunders, Fleming" type="person">Saunders</name> should not return to College until late at night when
                            <name key="pn0000134" reg="Benton, Thomas Hart" type="person">Benton</name> would most probably be asleep &amp; that said <name key="pn0001481" reg="Saunders, Fleming" type="person">Saunders</name>
                        should then search his pocket-book, to see whether the Dollar or any of the
                        money which had been stolen could be found in it.</p>
                    <p>Between the hours of eleven &amp; twelve at night the undersigned <name key="pn0001481" reg="Saunders, Fleming" type="person">Saunders</name>
                        left Mr <name key="pn0000580" reg="Gillaspie, James Smiley" type="person">Gillaspie’s</name>, &amp; when he entered his room, found that
                            <name key="pn0000134" reg="Benton, Thomas Hart" type="person">Benton</name> was abed &amp; asleep. He walked easily across the room,
                        took <name key="pn0000134" reg="Benton, Thomas Hart" type="person">Benton’s</name> pocket-book out of his coat pocket, &amp; on examining
                        it, found the identical Dollar which <name key="pn0000307" reg="Cherry, William" type="person">Cherry</name> had lost. This he
                        shortly afterwards communicated <pb id="unc06-18-p06" n="[14]"/> to the
                        undersigned <name key="pn0000084" reg="Baker, Marmaduke" type="person">Baker</name> &amp; <name key="pn0000307" reg="Cherry, William" type="person">Cherry</name>. It was then agreed that they should take
                            <name key="pn0000134" reg="Benton, Thomas Hart" type="person">Benton</name> out &amp; search him. To obtain an opportunity of doing
                        so, they agreed (with the knowledge &amp; permission of Mess<hi rend="sup">rs</hi>
                        <name key="pn0000268" reg="Caldwell, Joseph" type="person">Caldwell</name>
                        &amp; <name key="pn0000580" reg="Gillaspie, James Smiley" type="person">Gillaspie</name>) to go into the country for breakfast &amp; to
                        take <name key="pn0000134" reg="Benton, Thomas Hart" type="person">Benton</name> along. In the morning the undersigned <name key="pn0001481" reg="Saunders, Fleming" type="person">Saunders</name> went to Mr <name key="pn0000268" reg="Caldwell, Joseph" type="person" rend="yes">Caldwell</name> &amp; borrowed of him a Dollar of the common federal
                        stamp, with the intention of trying whether by bantering the company on the
                        beauty of his Dollar, he could not induce <name key="pn0000134" reg="Benton, Thomas Hart" type="person">Benton</name> to shew the Dollar
                        which they were all now convinced he had in his possession. The undersigned
                        had recourse to this expedient from a conviction that if <name key="pn0000134" reg="Benton, Thomas Hart" type="person">Benton</name>
                        <hi rend="underscore">had</hi> obtained the Dollar any other way than by
                        stealth, he would feel no reluctance in shewing it. Said <name key="pn0001481" reg="Saunders, Fleming" type="person">Saunders</name>
                        when he returned to the room proposed to the undersigned <name key="pn0000084" reg="Baker, Marmaduke" type="person">Baker</name>
                        &amp; <name key="pn0000307" reg="Cherry, William" type="person">Cherry</name> to go into the country with him to breakfast, &amp;
                        added that if any of the others would go with them, &amp; eat ten eggs
                        &amp; drink five dishes of coffee that he would pay for the breakfast.
                            <name key="pn0000134" reg="Benton, Thomas Hart" type="person">Benton</name> immediately accepted the offer, but when the time of starting
                        approached, he declined. The undersigned by using a number of expedients at
                        length prevailed &amp; <name key="pn0000134" reg="Benton, Thomas Hart" type="person">Benton</name> went with them. While on their way to the
                        house at which they were to breakfast, the undersigned <name key="pn0001481" reg="Saunders, Fleming" type="person">Saunders</name> made many attempts
                        to induce <name key="pn0000134" reg="Benton, Thomas Hart" type="person">Benton</name> to <pb id="unc06-18-p07" n="[15]"/> shew his Dollar but
                        without any success. As they returned from breakfast <name key="pn0000134" reg="Benton, Thomas Hart" type="person">Benton</name> appeared no ways
                        inclined to converse or to keep near to any of the undersigned, but kept
                        some distance before them. The undersigned <name key="pn0001481" reg="Saunders, Fleming" type="person">Saunders</name> at length called
                        to him not to walk so fast, adding that he wished to have some conversation
                        with him, on a particular subject. <name key="pn0000134" reg="Benton, Thomas Hart" type="person">Benton</name> slackened his
                        pace, &amp; when the undersigned came up <name key="pn0001481" reg="Saunders, Fleming" type="person">Saunders</name> mentioned to him
                        the suspicions that they had of his having taken their money, &amp;
                        that the only way of eradicating those suspicions was to submit to an
                        immediate search. <name key="pn0000134" reg="Benton, Thomas Hart" type="person">Benton</name> denied the charge &amp; with uplifted
                        hands called the gods to bear witness to his innocence. <name key="pn0001481" reg="Saunders, Fleming" type="person">Saunders</name>
                        replied that this would not convince him, &amp; told <name key="pn0000134" reg="Benton, Thomas Hart" type="person">Benton</name>
                        that he must submit to a search. <name key="pn0000134" reg="Benton, Thomas Hart" type="person">Benton</name> then put his hand
                        into his pocket, pulled out his pocket-handkerchief &amp; offered <name key="pn0001481" reg="Saunders, Fleming" type="person">Saunders</name>
                        his key telling him that he might search his trunk. <name key="pn0001481" reg="Saunders, Fleming" type="person">Saunders</name> refused the key
                        telling <name key="pn0000134" reg="Benton, Thomas Hart" type="person">Benton</name> that he <hi rend="underscore">must search</hi> his
                        pocket-book. After finding that <name key="pn0001481" reg="Saunders, Fleming" type="person">Saunders</name> would not be put
                        off with the key, he agreed that his pocket-book should be searched. In the
                        mean time however, he kept his hand employed in his pocket &amp; the
                        undersigned believe did then actually <pb id="unc06-18-p08" n="[16]"/> take
                        the above mentioned Dollar out of his pocket-book. With many &amp;
                        solemn asseverations of his innocence, he at length delivered his
                        pocket-book to <name key="pn0001481" reg="Saunders, Fleming" type="person">Saunders</name>; but on examination it was found that the Dollar was
                        not in it. The undersigned <name key="pn0001481" reg="Saunders, Fleming" type="person">Saunders</name> immediately put his hand into <name key="pn0000134" reg="Benton, Thomas Hart" type="person">Benton’s</name>
                        pocket &amp; pulled out the Dollar which he had discovered the night
                        before, &amp; which the undersigned <name key="pn0000307" reg="Cherry, William" type="person">Cherry</name> did not hesitate to
                        claim as his own. <name key="pn0000134" reg="Benton, Thomas Hart" type="person">Benton</name> appeared to be much agitated &amp;
                        after many prevarications &amp; self-evident falshoods, he confessed
                        that he had taken the money which the undersigned <name key="pn0000307" reg="Cherry, William" type="person">Cherry</name> had lost, but denied
                        taking any more. He added that he took the pocket-book on the supposition
                        that <name key="pn0000307" reg="Cherry, William" type="person">Cherry</name>
                        would imagine he had lost it out of his own pocket; &amp; that he
                        intended to replace the money in a short time by putting the pocket-book
                        into some place where said <name key="pn0000307" reg="Cherry, William" type="person">Cherry</name> would certainly find it. On being asked what
                        he had done with the pocket-book, he replied that he had thrown it to the
                        bottom of the little-house. After a number of other prevarications, he
                        confessed that he had taken a few Dollars from the undersigned <name key="pn0001481" reg="Saunders, Fleming" type="person">Saunders</name>,
                        but denied that he had taken any from <name key="pn0000084" reg="Baker, Marmaduke" type="person">Baker</name>. In the course of a
                        day or two, <name key="pn0000134" reg="Benton, Thomas Hart" type="person">Benton</name> acknowleged that he had taken from the undersigned <pb id="unc06-18-p09" n="[17]"/> at different times the sum of thirty four
                        Dollars viz from <name key="pn0001481" reg="Saunders, Fleming" type="person">Saunders</name> the sum of nine Dollars, from <name key="pn0000084" reg="Baker, Marmaduke" type="person">Baker</name> the sum of eighteen
                        Dollars &amp; a shilling &amp; from <name key="pn0000307" reg="Cherry, William" type="person">Cherry</name> the sum of seven
                        Dollars.</p>
                    <p>The undersigned <name key="pn0001481" reg="Saunders, Fleming" type="person">Fleming Saunders</name>, <name key="pn0000084" reg="Baker, Marmaduke" type="person">Marmaduke Baker</name> &amp; <name key="pn0000307" reg="Cherry, William" type="person">William Cherry</name> affirm that
                        the above is substantially a true statement.</p>
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                        <signed>
                            <name key="pn0001481" reg="Saunders, Fleming" type="person">Fleming
                                Saunders</name>
                        </signed>
                        <signed>
                            <name key="pn0000084" reg="Baker, Marmaduke" type="person">Marmaduke
                                Baker</name>
                        </signed>
                        <signed>
                            <name key="pn0000307" reg="Cherry, William" type="person" rend="yes">W<hi rend="sup">m</hi>. Cherry</name>
                        </signed>
                        <salute>Signed in presence of the Faculty</salute>
                        <signed>
                            <name key="pn0000580" reg="Gillaspie, James Smiley" type="person" rend="yes">J. S. Gillaspie</name>
                        </signed>
                        <signed>
                            <name key="pn0000268" reg="Caldwell, Joseph" type="person" rend="yes">Jos. Caldwell</name>
                        </signed>
                        <signed><name key="pn0000764" reg="Holmes, Samuel" type="person" rend="yes">Sam. A. Holmes</name>,</signed>
                        <signed>
                            <name key="pn0001250" reg="Murphey, Archibald DeBow" type="person" rend="yes">A D Murphey</name>
                        </signed>
                    </closer>
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                    <p>On the 22<hi rend="sup">nd</hi> of February or thereabouts the sum of twenty
                        Dollars in silver was taken out of the chest of the undersigned <name key="pn0000913" reg="King, Thomas" type="person">Thomas King</name>.
                        Said <name key="pn0000913" reg="King, Thomas" type="person" rend="yes">King</name> had no particular suspicion of the person who had taken it but
                        rather supposed that it <pb id="unc06-18-p10" n="[18]"/> must have been some
                        negro. But when he understood that <name key="pn0000134" reg="Benton, Thomas Hart" type="person">Thomas Benton</name> had,
                        according to his own confession, stolen the money of Mess<hi rend="sup">rs</hi>
                        <name key="pn0001481" reg="Saunders, Fleming" type="person">Saunders</name>,
                            <name key="pn0000084" reg="Baker, Marmaduke" type="person">Baker</name>
                        &amp; <name key="pn0000307" reg="Cherry, William" type="person">Cherry</name>, he supposed it most probable that he had taken his also.
                        Some circumstances which had heretofore escaped unnoticed now recurred to
                        his recollection, &amp; as <name key="pn0000134" reg="Benton, Thomas Hart" type="person">Benton</name> had left the <name key="name0001146" reg="University of North Carolina" type="organization">University</name> he determined to pursue &amp; enquire after his
                        money. On the evening of the 20<hi rend="sup">th</hi> of March he set out in
                        company with Mess<hi rend="sup">rs</hi>
                        <name key="pn0001481" reg="Saunders, Fleming" type="person">Saunders</name>
                        &amp; <name key="pn0000084" reg="Baker, Marmaduke" type="person">Baker</name> whose assistance he had sollicited &amp; procured,
                        &amp; on the 21<hi rend="sup">st</hi> found <name key="pn0000134" reg="Benton, Thomas Hart" type="person">Benton</name> at his mother’s.
                            <name key="pn0000134" reg="Benton, Thomas Hart" type="person">Benton</name> was called out &amp; when the question was proposed <hi rend="underscore">Whether</hi> he had taken the undersigned <name key="pn0000913" reg="King, Thomas" type="person">King’s</name> money? he
                        replied <hi rend="underscore">that he had</hi>. He was then asked whether
                        the chest was locked when he came to it? he replied that <hi rend="underscore">it was</hi>, but that he had some short time before,
                        procured a lock the key of which exactly fitted the lock of the chest
                        &amp; with which he opened it.</p>
                    <p>The undersigned <name key="pn0000913" reg="King, Thomas" type="person">Thomas
                            King</name> affirms that the above is substantially a true statement.</p>
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                            <name key="pn0000913" reg="King, Thomas" type="person">Thomas
                            King</name>
                        </signed>
                        <salute>Signed in presence of the Faculty</salute>
                        <signed>
                            <name key="pn0000580" reg="Gillaspie, James Smiley" type="person" rend="yes">J. S. Gillaspie</name>
                        </signed>
                        <signed>
                            <name key="pn0000764" reg="Holmes, Samuel" type="person" rend="yes">S A
                                Holmes</name>
                        </signed>
                        <signed>
                            <name key="pn0000268" reg="Caldwell, Joseph" type="person">Jos.
                            Caldwell</name>
                        </signed>
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