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		  <head>Debater's Speech of 
			 <name rend="yes" key="pn0001950" reg="Robinson, Thomas Jefferson " type="person" id="TJR">Thomas J. Robinson</name>, 1848</head>
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		  <head type="original" rend="center">Debater's Speech<lb/>by<lb/> 
			 <name key="pn0001950" reg="Robinson, Thomas Jefferson " type="person">Thomas J. Robinson</name><lb/>1848</head> 
		  <opener> 
			 <salute>
				<name key="x" reg="x" type="person">Mr. President</name>,</salute> </opener> 
		  <p>The question which is presented to us tonight for decision, on
			 account of the intimate connection which it has both with the present and
			 future welfare of our happy and prosperous country, and on account of the
			 influence it may exert upon the cause of popular freedom all the world over,
			 demands our serious and hearty consideration. To the American patriot, who, regarding with gratification the
			 rapid strides with which this western world has advanced and is now advancing,
			 towards the goal of national supremacy, watches with anxiety every attempt,
			 which may be made to overthrow the palladium of our liberties: to the friend of
			 human rights, who sees in the success or failure of this experiment of self
			 government, happiness, or misery, entailed not only upon our own people, but
			 also on a large portion of the habitable globe: and to the Christian philanthropist, whose daily prayer is
			 raised to the 
			 <name key="pn0000589" reg="God" type="person">God</name> of
			 nation for the preservation of our free religious institutions, this question
			 commends itself with peculiar force and interest.</p>
		  <p>Conscious, then, of the magnitude of the question and its issues, I
			 enter upon the defence of the negative, with a diffidence inspired by a
			 knowledge of my personal inabability, yet, at the same time, relying upon the
			 strength of the cause, which I espouse as sufficient of itself to determine a
			 correct decision in any unprejudiced mind. Regarding truth as the end, and the
			 good of our country as the aim of my remarks, I now proceed to examine the
			 arguments and methods of reasoning employed by 
			 <name key="x" reg="x" type="person">the Gentleman</name> who has just addressed you
			 in support of the affirmative.</p>
		  <p>
			 <name key="x" reg="x" type="person">The Gentleman</name> adduces his first argument
			 from the fact, that we have large public domain yet unpeopled, wide wastes of
			 wilderness untenanted, save by the tutorless savage, and would have us
			 encourage immigration from 
			 <name key="name0000347" reg="Europe" type="place">Europe</name>, in order that these wilds may be reclaimed, and
			 that the hum of busy life may be heard, where now resounds the savage
			 warhoop.</p><pb id="unc08-04-p02" n="2"/>
		  <p>But, 
			 <name key="x" reg="x" type="person">Mr. President</name> I conceive that to be a
			 shortsighted policy, which regards only the present, a policy suggested by
			 selfishness and supported by folly. That this is such an one must be evident to
			 all. For can anyone open his eyes, and witness the progress in Civilization,
			 which, as 
			 <name key="x" reg="x" type="person">the Gentleman</name> very justly remarked, our
			 infant country has already made, observe the successive tides of population,
			 which, as billow follows billow, roll towards the 
			 <name key="name0003110" reg="Pacific Ocean" type="place">Pacific</name>, and yet in view of all this
			 imagine that it is necessary to our prosperity, to urge the immigration of the
			 prison-birds and poor house tenants of 
			 <name key="name0000347" reg="Europe" type="place">Europe</name>, with
			 its long train of attendant evils? Can one be conscious of this fact, that the
			 original thirteen states have increased to their present numbers, within less
			 than three-quarters of a century, and still suppose that we must look to 
			 <name key="name0000347" reg="Europe" type="place">Europe</name> to
			 people our western lands? No sir, we need no such assistance as this to help us
			 onward. Our country holds within its own boundaries the elements of greatness.
			 She desires the help of no 
			 <name key="name0000347" reg="Europe" type="place">European</name>
			 institution, but trusting to a Divine Providence, which has hitherto watched
			 over and guided her glorious destinies. She hopes, and hopes rightly too, to
			 run her course of splendor by herself independent of foreign aid. If however 
			 <name key="x" reg="x" type="person">the Gentleman</name> would urge immigration on
			 the scone of humanity, and colonize these unoccupied territories with 
			 <name key="name0000347" reg="Europe" type="place">Europeans</name> on
			 account of the advantage they would gain. I think it can be met by an argument
			 of the same kind equally strong. It is known to all that the Indians formerly inhabiting the territory, now converted
			 into states, have been driven westward as civilization advanced, until now they
			 are settled beyond 
			 <name key="name0000664" reg="Mississippi River" type="place">the Mississippi</name>. If then we import cargoes of foreigners
			 and locate them in our western lands, however philanthropic an act we may thus
			 perform, and however loudly we may boast of our humanity, in thus doing, we
			 incur equal, yea greater censure in exterminating<pb id="unc08-04-p03" n="3"/>
			 the already injured aborigines, we bestow the blessings of freedom upon the one
			 people, but it is at the expense of the lives, liberty, and property of a far
			 more noble race. They have already suffered many and great wrongs at our hands,
			 and such an act as this would accumulate those wrongs so vastly, as possibly to
			 call down the vengeance of a being, who is the God of the Indian as well as of the whiteman.</p>
		  <p>But 
			 <name key="x" reg="x" type="person">Mr. President</name>, we are told that it is to
			 foreigners that we are indebted, for all the successful efforts thus far made
			 in internal improvements. They have dug our canals, they have constructed our
			 railroads, they have reared our cities. I must confess, Sir, that I am at a
			 loss to determine what 
			 <name key="x" reg="x" type="person">the Gentleman</name> means. He must either intend
			 to say that our day-laborers are composed principally of 
			 <name key="name0000528" reg="Ireland" type="place">Irishman</name>, 
			 <name key="name0000417" reg="Germany" type="place">Germans</name>, "<foreign id="latin">et id omni genus</foreign>"
			 or he tells us that we are a nation of foreigners. In the first sense I agree
			 with him. I admit that our foreigners are usually of
			 that class, which, unable either naturally or accidentally to enjoy any
			 other kind of life is forced by necessity to earn a livelihood by daily labor,
			 and that they find ready employment from the directors of our public works. But
			 granting this I ask what does it prove? Does it show that we owe them for these
			 great works of internal improvement, which he has mentioned? Does it establish
			 beyond cavil that they are the mighty projectors of the plans of the railroads
			 and canals, which intersect the length and breadth of our land? Or does it
			 prove that they, axe in hand penetrate into the depths of the forest, fell
			 trees, rear cities, and then invite the American people to hold and possess them. Most certainly
			 not. It only tells what we already know, that they are but tools in the hands
			 of wealth and power, having no more ability to put these plans into execution
			 than mere marching has to perform its work without the aid of man. No one will
			 then believe that we are indebted to foreigners for doing that for which they
			 are paid, or that we have not a<pb id="unc08-04-p04" n="4"/>sufficient number
			 of Native Americans to do our work, as far as physical force is concerned. The second
			 interpretation given to the remark — that we are a nation of foreigners,
			 scarcely deserves mention. How far 
			 <name key="x" reg="x" type="person">the Gentleman</name> may be successful in winning
			 you, Sir, or this house, over to this belief I will not say, but I do say that,
			 disclaiming all pretensions to being aboriginals, we have ever since we became
			 a separate people, laid a claim, and I think not a weak one, to national
			 individuality.</p>
		  <p>We are asked if we could not [justify] in suspecting some
			 unpatriotic design in the opponents of immigration, some selfishness of spirit,
			 which would sacrifice public good to private interests. How 
			 <name key="x" reg="x" type="person">the Gentleman</name> intends to justify his
			 suspicions, we have not been told, and I fancy that it would require a fertile
			 imagination to supply sufficient data. But I see how these foreigners may
			 become the recipients of public patronage. I see how party spirit, which
			 unhappily is too excitable in our country, may one day prompt to such a use of
			 immigrants, as will endanger in an imminent degree the stability of our
			 government. Important public stations are to a goodly number of our citizens,
			 great desideratums, and when once in possession of them we are not to be
			 surprised if secret measures are taken by the occupants, especially when so
			 easily used, to retain their offices and their power. A thousand manoeuvres,
			 based upon reciprocity, are employed by candidates and voters, and thus bad men
			 may retain power, and the more honest be excluded. In this way I see how public
			 good may be sacrificed to private interests, and in this way I see how
			 unpatriotic designs may be charged upon the supporters of immigration.</p>
		  <p>It is thought that immigration will expel slavery from our land, and
			 thus rid the 
			 <name key="name0001060" reg="The South" type="place">South</name> of the greatest disadvantage under which it now
			 labors. No one can go farther than I, in desiring the lawful abolishment of
			 slavery. I believe it to be an evil which affects the 
			 <name key="name0001060" reg="The South" type="place">South</name> more
			 vitally than any other, an 
		  evil that should never have<pb id="unc08-04-p05" n="5"/>have been established
		  in this land of equal rights, a clog to the progress of society and in direct
		  opposition to the precepts of philanthropy. But I fear Sir that 
		  <name key="x" reg="x" type="person">the Gentleman</name> has been influenced more by
		  his wishes than his judgement in supposing that immigration will prove an
		  antidote to the bane. In support of his argument, he says, that 
		  <name key="name0000712" reg="New England" type="place">New
			 England</name> has been the great theatre of immigration and therefore 
		  <name key="name0000712" reg="New England" type="place">New England</name>
		  is free from slavery. 
		  <name key="x" reg="x" type="person">The Gentleman</name> must pardon me when I say that
		  he has ascribed the effect to the wrong cause. 
		  <name key="name0000712" reg="New England" type="place">New England</name>
		  is free from slavery it is true, but the cause must be attributed to the
		  climate. The blacks, coming from the tropical regions, cannot endure the cold
		  of our Northern states. Their mortality there is so great as to make them in
		  the end unprofitable to their owners, and our Northern brethren with their
		  proverbial shrewdness, were too wise to embark in a scheme so predjudicial to
		  their interests. No Sir, the unalterable decree of the 
		  <name key="pn0000368" reg="The Creator " type="person">Creator</name> has gone forth, saying to slavery "thus far shall
		  thou go and no farther." And in obedience to that command we see the absence of
		  slavery in the 
		  <name key="name0000743" reg="The North" type="place">North</name>. If then immigration has not been the cause of such
		  an effect, in the instance which 
		  <name key="x" reg="x" type="person">the Gentleman</name> has cited we have yet to learn
		  that it will be thus effective in any other. But Sir even if
		  immigration has expelled
		  slavery at the 
		  <name key="name0000743" reg="The North" type="place">North</name>, it has
		  not driven it from the whole country, it has only changed the locality of the
		  slaves form North to South, and Sir they will continue moving in that direction
		  so long as Southern territory continues to be annexed. They are still however
		  in the 
		  <name key="name0001144" reg="United States" type="place">United
			 States</name>. None have left, and can we suppose that the price of free labour
		  will be ever reduced so low by immigration, as to justify in a pecuniary point
		  of view, the master in emancipating his slaves and paying their expenses to 
		  <name key="name0000584" reg="Liberia" type="place">Liberia</name>! If such a state of affairs could exist it would be
		  more deplorable than our present system of slavery for it would substitute in
		  its stead one more wrecked, more revolting to our feelings.</p><pb id="unc08-04-p06" n="6"/>
		  <p>No Sir, the tide of immigration may swell more and more, and
			 finally, may deluge our whole land, yet the philanthropist will have to look to
			 some other power to rid us of this curse. Thus far I have endeavored to reply
			 to the arguments advanced by 
			 <name key="x" reg="x" type="person">the Gentleman</name> in support of the
			 affirmative it now remains to notice some farther objections which may be urged
			 against immigration. The condition of the immigrant when he arrives in our
			 seaport towns is at the same time the most unfortunate and dangerous to which
			 man can be subjected. Fresh from the workhouses, manufactories, or it may be
			 prisons of 
			 <name key="name0000347" reg="Europe" type="place">Europe</name> when his
			 daily pittance was scarcely able to support him he lands upon our shores with
			 the most erroneous ideas respecting the nature of the change which he is just
			 accomplishing. He conceives the crossing the 
			 <name key="name0000053" reg="Atlantic Ocean" type="place">Atlantic</name> to be the greatest obstacle in the road to wealth
			 and power. He runs mad with the idea of freedom and having from his earlier
			 education no ability to understand and properly appreciate the blessings of
			 "liberty protected by law," he is ready to run into any kind of licentious
			 excess, and is easily made the tool in the hands of the designing to perform
			 the most nefarious deeds and carry out the most incendiary purposes. He is
			 willing to listen to no explanation of equal rights unless it be defined equal
			 condition and acting on this principle he takes his stand against the rich and
			 opposes their every interest. That this is not a fancy picture of the great
			 majority of those who seek their homes in our land, I will show by noticing an
			 institution, which has been imported<pb id="unc08-04-p07" n="7"/> with them,
			 one which already obtains in our Northern cities, which has already infused
			 some of our Northern manufactories and threatens yet to prove the cause of
			 great disturbance in the community. I speak of the Trade Unions. It is only
			 necessary to remark that they are the nurseries of these "strikes for higher wages," and their
			 consequent riots to condemn them in the eyes of all good men. It is an
			 institution imported from 
			 <name key="name0000347" reg="Europe" type="place">Europe</name>, and
			 supported by people imported from 
			 <name key="name0000347" reg="Europe" type="place">Europe</name>, and
			 although it is productive of harmful effects <hi rend="underscore">there</hi>
			 it will become more injurious <hi rend="underscore">here</hi>. The operatives
			 on the different factories fancying that they are not sufficiently well paid
			 and aware of the power of associated actions enter into a bargain with one
			 another to do no more work until they are paid whatever price for labor they
			 may think proper to exact and not only so but they take coercive measures to
			 prevent others from supplying their place and frequently go so far as to cause
			 loss of life. From the common fund of the association they are supported until
			 their employers come to terms. This 
			 <name key="x" reg="x" type="person">Mr. President</name> is a general outline of the
			 institution. I will not attempt to portray the evils that must inevitably flow
			 from this system. The cripling effect which it will have on the manufacturing
			 and through it upon the agricultural interests of the country the debasing
			 tendency which this warfare of the poor upon the rich will exert upon the
			 morals of the people at large. The injurious issues are more easily imagined
			 than described they must appear to you, Sir, yes to every one, as alone
			 sufficient to render immigration not only not desirable but also greatly to be
			 feared, and yet we are told in the face of all this that it is the "largest
			 aspiration of the son of 
			 <name key="name0000528" reg="Ireland" type="place">Erin</name> to work
			 for the public good."</p><pb id="unc08-04-p08" n="8"/>
		  <p>Another objection to immigration worthy of your serious attention
			 arises from the religion of a majority of those who find new homes in the
			 western Continent. The late famine has driven countless numbers of Irish to our
			 shores, and every one is aware that their prevailing religion is Roman Catholicism. They are subjected to papal
			 bondage the same in kind though not in degree as were most of the 
			 <name key="name0000347" reg="Europe" type="place">European</name>
			 Countries during the dark ages. Let us not deceive ourselves with the visionary
			 opinion that his Holiness the 
			 <name key="x" reg="x" type="person">Pope</name> will remain careless and unconcerned
			 when such great advantages for extending his spiritual perhaps temporal power
			 are offered to him in this our Republican land. Read the history of 
			 <name key="name0000347" reg="Europe" type="place">Europe</name> and tell
			 me at what time the Roman pontiff did not aim at universal dominion? When such
			 an event was at all to be expected! Never is he idle when anything is to be
			 gained by action, never careless when his attention is required. Like the lion
			 crouched before his prey he only awaits a favorable moment to leap and devour.
			 How pitiable is that country which is completely in his power, in which every
			 one from "the head that wears a crown" to the humble beggar can be made to
			 tremble by his threatening Bulls. See 
			 <name key="x" reg="x" type="person">Henry 4<hi rend="sup">th</hi></name> of 
			 <name key="name0000417" reg="Germany" type="place">Germany</name> with
			 base head and feet at the threshold of 
			 <name key="x" reg="x" type="person">Hildebrand</name> waiting for absolution. Behold 
			 <name key="pn0000838" reg="John, King of England " rend="yes" type="person">John</name> of 
			 <name key="name0000336" reg="England" type="place">England</name> intimidated into submission and on bended knee
			 solemnly surrendering his kingdom to 
			 <name key="x" reg="x" type="person">Innocent 3<hi rend="sup">rd</hi></name> and tell
			 me if we desire such a state of things in 
			 <name key="name0000026" reg="America" type="place">America</name>.
			 Witness the fires of 
			 <name key="name0001054" reg="Smithfield, NC" rend="yes" type="place">Smithfield</name> which were kindled by a bloody 
			 <name key="x" reg="x" type="person">Mary</name>. Hear the shrieks of 
		  	<name key="pn0003520" reg="Saint-Bartheélemy" type="person">St. Bartholomew</name>'<hi rend="sup">s</hi> day
			 when seventy thousand fell victims to papal persecution and tell<pb id="unc08-04-p09" n="9"/>me if we wish such scenes enacted here. If popery
			 should even become the established religion of our land, I ask what assurance
			 have we that such a state of things will not exist! If we consult that "plulos
			 oplry which teaches by example" what do we learn! We learn every thing which
			 tends to increase our fear, nothing to allay them. That this generation will
			 witness 
			 <name key="name0000990" reg="Roman Catholicism" type="organization">Romanism</name> as the prevailing religion in the 
			 <name key="name0001144" reg="United States" type="place">United
				States</name> I do not say, but Sir if immigration continues as it has begun,
			 not many generations will have been numbered with the dead, ere the world will
			 see papal power oppressing our State and religious slavery fastening its
			 shakles upon our people. And if there be oppressive tyrany it is the tyrany of
			 the pope if there be abject slavery it is the thraldom of the mind.</p>
		  <p>In conclusion 
			 <name key="x" reg="x" type="person">Mr. President</name> if it is desirable that our
			 offices should become corrupted and our officers demagogues, that the elective
			 franchise should be but a empty name that anarchy should raise her haggard head
			 in our land, that the simoom of ignorance and vice should sweep over us
			 blasting with its fetid breath all vegetative virtue and inteligence and
			 finally that we should present to the world the mournful spectacle of a wrecked
			 empire in cause immigration, but if on the other hand we wish to hand down to
			 succeeding people the rights and privileges which have been bequeathed to us,
			 to keep the escutcheon of our liberties bright and unsullied, and to be to the
			 world an example of a free and happy people, a people in the full enjoyment of
			 the largest liberty protected by law, then let us hand in hand oppose it.</p>
		  <signed>
			 <name key="pn0001950" reg="Robinson, Thomas Jefferson" type="person">Thomas J. Robinson</name></signed>
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		  <head type="original" rend="center">Query<lb/>"Is it desirable that our country should be peopled by
			 immigrants from 
			 <name key="name0000347" reg="Europe" type="place">Europe</name>"?</head>
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			 <head>Affirmative</head>
			 <item>
				<name key="pn0001493" reg="Scales, James Pinckney " rend="yes" type="person">James P. Scales</name> of 
				<name key="name0000986" reg="Rockingham County, NC" rend="yes" type="place">Rockingham</name></item>
			 <item>
				<name key="pn0000740" reg="Hill, William Edward " rend="yes" type="person">William E. Hill</name> of 
			 	<name key="x" reg="x" type="place" rend="yes">Duplin</name></item>
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			 <head>Negative</head>
			 <item>
				<name key="pn0001950" reg="Robinson, Thomas Jefferson" type="person">Thomas J. Robinson</name> of 
				<name key="name0000362" reg="Fayetteville, NC" rend="yes" type="place">Fayetteville</name></item>
			 <item>Peter M. Hale of 
				<name key="name0000362" reg="Fayetteville, NC" type="place">Fayetteville</name></item>
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		  <p>Decided in favor of the Negative.</p>
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